[Compcomm] The Next Step

Tue Apr 17 20:09:40 EDT 2007

Most people honestly don't give a crap what the name is. Make a poll and get
over it. (If its going to be re-named, make sure the names can acutally have
a slogan. You can't put a slogan to "compiz" or "beryl")

Secondly, you asked for wishlists / suggestion boxes. Well, they are here:
Compiz-setup suggestion box <http://forum.compiz.org/viewtopic.php?t=878>
Window decorator suggestions box<http://forum.compiz.org/viewtopic.php?t=879>
Documentation suggestion box <http://forum.compiz.org/viewtopic.php?t=880>
Major plugins suggestion box <http://forum.compiz.org/viewtopic.php?t=882>
Website suggestion box <http://forum.compiz.org/viewtopic.php?t=881>
Brainstorming for new
settings-tool<http://forum.compiz.org/viewtopic.php?t=869>

All of you can submit your ideas there. There is one rule though. You are
not allowed to say "awww thats crap" to ANY of the ideas. Users submit thier
ideas for a reason. They wouldn't say "Well you could grab a chicken and
poke it and that would be the Settings Manager..." If an idea is not
feasible, then point out  to the user why, state the technical limitations
and offer an alternitave which does what you think they are talking about.

Oh and considering that fact that this website is really the
compiz-communities website and not davids, we can change the name of it to
whatever we want. Compiz official is hosted on freedesktop.org and
novell.com

Thirdly, I have updated this page http://www.compiz.org/CommunityMembers so
that developers can put their name down specifically in what team they want
to be in. Note that when I say compiz or beryl, they are temporary names.
NOBODY knows what to call it right now ok?

On 4/18/07, Mike Dransfield <mike at blueroot.co.uk> wrote:
>
> Jeffrey Laramie wrote:
> > On Tuesday 17 April 2007 19:31, Mike Dransfield wrote:
> >
> >> Jeffrey Laramie wrote:
> >>
> >>> On Tuesday 17 April 2007 18:35, RYX wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Am Dienstag, den 17.04.2007, 16:35 -0400 schrieb Will Farrington:
> >>>>
> >>>>> The entire thing will utilize the Compiz core and will need that
> core
> >>>>> to be of any worth.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> No one will be Emerald unless they're using Compiz.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> etc, etc
> >>>>>
> >>>>> There are a plethora of reasons why naming the forums the Compiz
> Forums
> >>>>> IS THE RIGHT IDEA. Listing them all would be a waste of time.
> >>>>>
> >>>> I don't want to join the name discussion again, but I really support
> the
> >>>> idea of keeping the name "compiz community" (or "coco" as short form
> and
> >>>> prefix for the packages) - if you think of it, the old name of the
> >>>> compiz-forums (before beryl) was not compiz-quinnstorm.org ... it was
> >>>> compiz.org. Nobody had a problem with it back then, so why bother
> today?
> >>>>
> >>> I know this isn't the way you wanted it, but the decision was made
> weeks
> >>> ago that we would use a new neutral community/domain name. Having the
> >>> same discussions again and again isn't helping us move forward.
> >>>
> >> Since its just a change of domain name, can we discuss who will
> >> own this domain?
> >>
> >> I am not happy about anyone except David being in control of the
> >> 'official' domain for obvious reasons.
> >>
> >
> > This is a good question. I personally don't have a problem with David
> owning
> > the name, or anyone else that is an active leader for that matter. Other
> > communities have created a legal structure that owns the community
> assets,
> > such as the Apache Software Foundation. That might be the better answer
> in
> > the long term.
> >
>
> I do not think we could get such a legal agreement within a
> certain timeframe.  To me the safest way to avoid undesired
> consequences is to keep the existing domain name and
> ownership.
>
> Also whilst we are on the subject, do I ever get an answer
> about who actually owns berylbox?  Is it quinn?
>
>
> >> It still really does not explain why we have to change domains,
> >> forum name and possibly logo for.  It seems like a lot of extra effort
> >> and expense for not a lot of gain.
> >>
> >
> > The gain is a larger community of active developers who feel that their
> > contributions are appreciated.
> >
>
> They know full well their contributions are appreciated,
> we dont need to change a domain for that.
>
> From what I hear on this list, the developers are the ones who
> care least for a name change, it seems like non-developers
> and cheerleaders who want to change the name most.
>
> Also you say they are active developers, do we get some sort of
> commitment to number of hours for the change of name?
>
> I mean we would look totally stupid if we changed the name
> and then they all said 'we are all demotivated now and we don't
> really know what to code, sorry'.  What exciting stuff is on the
> line if only we just change the name of the forum?
>
> Do we get a wishlist completed or something?
>
> > Jeff
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