[Compcomm] A possible forum merge proposal

[Danny Baumann]

Hi,

because I know that this statement made by Sam WILL be misinterpreted,
the needed disclaimer:
Sam does not speak for any developer, Sam does speak as a single person
and maybe on behalf of a number of users (I don't know how many).


> Now, we at Beryl, knew very_clearly what our directions were. We at
> Beryl care about the code and the features and care about the way
> things work. In beryl, everything is intergrated and clean. The SM
> ties in with the plugins and the core very nicely. A_lot_of_users
> consider Beryl_to_be_a_lot_better_and_more_easier than compiz was. In
> my honest opinion, I have had FAR FAR FAR less troubles with Beryl
> than I've had with compiz. Getting compiz to work was a nightmare for
> me. Getting Beryl to work was a snap. 

The good thing about Beryl was that everything was nicely integrated and
worked out-of-the-box. The bad thing was how a number of things was
achieved code-wise.

> With compiz you have a bunch of plugins, settings managers - many of
> which have been abondoned or discontinued, and NO
> centralised_repo_for_all_of_the_stuff. Moving from Beryl to Compiz was
> a nightmare for me. Using gconf is a nightmare. I have problems with
> it _every_day. 

Compiz currently lacks the setup helpers (such as system detection), but
those are worked on.

> So please dont think of Beryl as trash coming to crappyfy compiz.
> Every user out there execpt you and all the other few compiz
> supporters will say that Beryl_is_better.
> 
> Compiz was bad enough when I was forced to move there. Sure, they have
> the leadership but the actual code doesnt_work. 

I would not sign that. 
Both have advantages, but Compiz' core code is definitely better. That's
why the goal is to get clean code with Beryl's integration. Having a
separation core stuff <-> community stuff is no problem, but a
separation core stuff <-> community stuff in a public repo <-> community
stuff in private repos <-> community stuff in forum posts definitely is.

> PS. Please dont think that I intended to say that compiz is trash. Its
> not. It has just been so buggy and disorganised lately....

No, Compiz isn't disorganized, WE are disorganized.

Regards,

Danny