[Compcomm] A possible forum merge proposal

[Stephen Moore]

whether beryl or compiz was better is irrelevant.....

all that matters now is the fact that the two merged...this means that in
the future (probably more long term than short term) our composited manager
will be EXTREMELY better off than with the code duplication that the fork
created.....

so argueing about the mistakes of the past isn't gonna help



On 4/27/07, Danny Baumann <dannybaumann at web.de> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> because I know that this statement made by Sam WILL be misinterpreted,
> the needed disclaimer:
> Sam does not speak for any developer, Sam does speak as a single person
> and maybe on behalf of a number of users (I don't know how many).
>
>
> > Now, we at Beryl, knew very_clearly what our directions were. We at
> > Beryl care about the code and the features and care about the way
> > things work. In beryl, everything is intergrated and clean. The SM
> > ties in with the plugins and the core very nicely. A_lot_of_users
> > consider Beryl_to_be_a_lot_better_and_more_easier than compiz was. In
> > my honest opinion, I have had FAR FAR FAR less troubles with Beryl
> > than I've had with compiz. Getting compiz to work was a nightmare for
> > me. Getting Beryl to work was a snap.
>
> The good thing about Beryl was that everything was nicely integrated and
> worked out-of-the-box. The bad thing was how a number of things was
> achieved code-wise.
>
> > With compiz you have a bunch of plugins, settings managers - many of
> > which have been abondoned or discontinued, and NO
> > centralised_repo_for_all_of_the_stuff. Moving from Beryl to Compiz was
> > a nightmare for me. Using gconf is a nightmare. I have problems with
> > it _every_day.
>
> Compiz currently lacks the setup helpers (such as system detection), but
> those are worked on.
>
> > So please dont think of Beryl as trash coming to crappyfy compiz.
> > Every user out there execpt you and all the other few compiz
> > supporters will say that Beryl_is_better.
> >
> > Compiz was bad enough when I was forced to move there. Sure, they have
> > the leadership but the actual code doesnt_work.
>
> I would not sign that.
> Both have advantages, but Compiz' core code is definitely better. That's
> why the goal is to get clean code with Beryl's integration. Having a
> separation core stuff <-> community stuff is no problem, but a
> separation core stuff <-> community stuff in a public repo <-> community
> stuff in private repos <-> community stuff in forum posts definitely is.
>
> > PS. Please dont think that I intended to say that compiz is trash. Its
> > not. It has just been so buggy and disorganised lately....
>
> No, Compiz isn't disorganized, WE are disorganized.
>
> Regards,
>
> Danny
>
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