[Compcomm] A possible forum merge proposal

[Stephen Moore]

i want to make people aware of some of my ideas to stop this fight

http://www.opencompositing.org/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=51&p=276#p276

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On 4/27/07, Stephen Moore <delfick755 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> whether beryl or compiz was better is irrelevant.....
>
> all that matters now is the fact that the two merged...this means that in
> the future (probably more long term than short term) our composited manager
> will be EXTREMELY better off than with the code duplication that the fork
> created.....
>
> so argueing about the mistakes of the past isn't gonna help
>
>
>
> On 4/27/07, Danny Baumann <dannybaumann at web.de > wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > because I know that this statement made by Sam WILL be misinterpreted,
> > the needed disclaimer:
> > Sam does not speak for any developer, Sam does speak as a single person
> > and maybe on behalf of a number of users (I don't know how many).
> >
> >
> > > Now, we at Beryl, knew very_clearly what our directions were. We at
> > > Beryl care about the code and the features and care about the way
> > > things work. In beryl, everything is intergrated and clean. The SM
> > > ties in with the plugins and the core very nicely. A_lot_of_users
> > > consider Beryl_to_be_a_lot_better_and_more_easier than compiz was. In
> > > my honest opinion, I have had FAR FAR FAR less troubles with Beryl
> > > than I've had with compiz. Getting compiz to work was a nightmare for
> > > me. Getting Beryl to work was a snap.
> >
> > The good thing about Beryl was that everything was nicely integrated and
> > worked out-of-the-box. The bad thing was how a number of things was
> > achieved code-wise.
> >
> > > With compiz you have a bunch of plugins, settings managers - many of
> > > which have been abondoned or discontinued, and NO
> > > centralised_repo_for_all_of_the_stuff. Moving from Beryl to Compiz was
> > > a nightmare for me. Using gconf is a nightmare. I have problems with
> > > it _every_day.
> >
> > Compiz currently lacks the setup helpers (such as system detection), but
> > those are worked on.
> >
> > > So please dont think of Beryl as trash coming to crappyfy compiz.
> > > Every user out there execpt you and all the other few compiz
> > > supporters will say that Beryl_is_better.
> > >
> > > Compiz was bad enough when I was forced to move there. Sure, they have
> > > the leadership but the actual code doesnt_work.
> >
> > I would not sign that.
> > Both have advantages, but Compiz' core code is definitely better. That's
> > why the goal is to get clean code with Beryl's integration. Having a
> > separation core stuff <-> community stuff is no problem, but a
> > separation core stuff <-> community stuff in a public repo <-> community
> > stuff in private repos <-> community stuff in forum posts definitely is.
> >
> > > PS. Please dont think that I intended to say that compiz is trash. Its
> >
> > > not. It has just been so buggy and disorganised lately....
> >
> > No, Compiz isn't disorganized, WE are disorganized.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Danny
> >
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