[Compcomm] CompComm Digest, Vol 3, Issue 9

[The DarkMaster]

Will Farrington ha scritto:
> I can get behind this proposal. The only thing I'd like to see added is 
> a clause specifically _prohibiting_ any names that are in any way, 
> shape, or form connected to the names 'Compiz-Extra' and 'Beryl'. This 
> would disallow another "gem name" or any of the hideous combinations of 
> "Compiz-Extra" and "Beryl" (read: Coral, et al.).
>
> Frankly, we need to be moving _forward_ and stop clinging to the past 
> via names.
>
>
> Jeffrey Laramie <imnotpc at Rock3d.org> wrote:
>   
>> I agree that the name selection process was flawed and that we should start 
>> again. I think that the name should be selected through a democratic process, 
>> but even in democracy the candidates have to be "qualified" by their 
>> supporters. Otherwise you would end up with hundreds of choices many of which 
>> could never be used.
>>
>> I think Kristian's idea has merit but I'm concerned about the method used to 
>> drop unqualified names. I'd like to propose an alternative:
>>
>> - Create a Nominating Committee of 3-5 members who will have the 
>> responsibility of compiling the list of the qualified names.
>>
>> - We've already had a least a week to propose names and we've had dozens 
>> (hundreds?) of names proposed, so I propose only 3 additional days to make 
>> suggestions.
>>
>> - Start a new thread on the forum for people to propose names. But rather than 
>> just having people post names, the submitter will have to do a little 
>> research. Each submitted name *must* have the following information to be 
>> considered by the Nominating Committee:
>> 	- Name
>> 	- Available domain names
>> 	- At least one logo idea
>> 	- Perform a web search and list the top 3 conflicts, if any.
>> 	- A brief description of what the name means and why we should use it.
>> 	- A brief description of any known negative connotations or meanings.
>>
>> - After 3 days the Nominating Committee will select the top 10 names based on 
>> popularity, marketability, and lack of negatives. They will have up to 2 days 
>> to review the names and make their decision.
>>
>> - There will be a poll of the 10 names which will last 3 days. The winner must 
>> have *majority* of all votes to win. If no choice receives a majority, then 
>> the bottom 6 choices will be dropped, and we'll conduct another 3 day poll. 
>> If no choice receives a majority in the 2nd poll, then the bottom 2 choices 
>> will be dropped and the last 2 choices will make it to the final 3 day poll.
>>
>> - The polling threads will be locked but discussion will be allowed on other 
>> threads
>>
>> In theory this process could take up to 2 weeks, but we don't have a deadline 
>> here and I think it's important that we get this right. Choosing a name 
>> should be a unifying event, not a divisive one.
>>
>> Jeff
>>   

Well, I think that first of all is crazy to say that a name or an entire 
kind of names should be forbidden. Just crazy not to say something 
worst. It is a free project. So this is enough. I'm really reading 
astonishing things lately...

I think that Jeff resumed everything I'm writing about just now in the 
ML. I didn't read this mail yet but I wrote very similar things. But I 
have something to add about it.

The Logo and branding Idea has to be presented in a written manner or in 
a sketched one. With any program, even scanned. This way we won't have a 
first category of time-loosers in our Name research.

Second. I've read in the Forum a lot of people saying that we have to 
decide the name soon because they can't wait for a release. This is 
really bad in my opinion, a scandal. But we had to expect it. A lot of 
people voted for Coral because it was winning! Not because they liked 
it. This means that since they wanted at all costs a quick release, they 
voted for the favorite one. This probably means that after 2 days no 
other name had a chance of winning. In a democracy things does not work 
like this.

What I suggest is that someone should release a development release of 
this compcomm packages and compiz-git, so that all of this people in a 
hurry will be settled down. At this point we'll be able to work a real 
name with no restriction and, most of all, with no damned time looser 
inside the contest.

Everyone willing for a quick name will be thrown away from the contest, 
they were never interested in this, so, having they're unstable release 
already, they will not care participating and voting just for a quick 
name to be chosen. I think this would be a crucial part of the name poll 
research.

And we need to propose names like Feff proposed. With a name, a logo, an 
explenation, a meaning and everything else. If we want to create 
something professional than be it. But we need to work ONLY with people 
interested in the name and in the logo. And I think that releasing a 
compom third party in some repos will create a natural selection of 
those who are interested and of those who are not.

What do you think about it?

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