[Compcomm] Deciding a name

[RYX]

Am Donnerstag, den 14.06.2007, 13:01 +0800 schrieb Stephen Moore:
> why do we even need some fancy name for these packages ??
> 
> why can't we just stick with compComm or compiz-extra ???
Very good question. I'd say because too many people complain about
having compiz in the name (although nobody seems to care if compiz is
the core of his desktop :D ...). If I remember correctly, that was the
original reason for all this naming chaos.

> this isn't the window manager being created here, just the stuff that
> extends the window manager 
So true :D ...

> 
> we don't need slogans and logos for the extras package, it doesn't
> make sense
> 
> maybe the community can create logos and such for itself (as in the
> community, not the packages)
Definetly. The same way it is done well in almost all other open-source
projects (no irony here). There is some app with some name and logo and
there are many hundred pieces of community-driven artwork and extensions
for that app. 

(A good example for this, which I stumbled upon yesterday, is
UbuntuStudio. I thought it was something very new, but it is nothing
more than an extended set of artwork and some metapackages. Nobody would
ever call it e.g. "Multimedix" or "Produnix" - it is 99.9% "Ubuntu" and
0.1% "Studio" ... no need for further explanation, I think)

> 
> but do the packages really need some fancy, abstract weird name that
> plays tricks on the users subconcious mind, supposedly creating
> connections to the elements of the earth and how that then connects to
> the desktop bling which makes them feel warm and fuzzy inside ?? 
> 
> i think not
I totally agree and I'd like to add that my proposals concerning those
naming-issues were more related to the unwillingness of having compiz in
the name. In the end it still would make most sense to call it compiz
<something> (like "compiz fusion" or "compiz ce"). 

I think this widely spread antipathy against the compiz-name is still
related to the misinformation that compcomm will be a new application
which replaces beryl and thus compiz will not be needed anymore.
Everyone (especially the former beryl officials) should continue
informing the users that "compcomm" is no application but an extension
to compiz. I am not sure if everyone out there knows that. 

Rico

> 
> On 6/11/07, Jeffrey Laramie <imnotpc at ubaight.com> wrote:
>         > > In theory this process could take up to 2 weeks, but we
>         don't have a
>         > > deadline here and I think it's important that we get this
>         right. Choosing
>         > > a name should be a unifying event, not a divisive one. 
>         > >
>         > > Jeff
>         >
>         > I agree with the idea of a nominating commitee, but I think
>         it is the
>         > wrong priority to spend 3 days with finding good names and
>         11 days with
>         > holding the poll(s). It is important to get this right - as
>         you say. So 
>         > we should put the priority on the creation of good name
>         proposals, not
>         > on ongoing bureaucracy. The "dozens" of available name
>         suggestions are
>         > more or less entirely inacceptable.
>         >
>         > We are not in a hurry so we can safely spend at least two
>         weeks with
>         > finding good names (which is still ridiculously short
>         compared to
>         > "real-life" projects). Once there is a minimum list of 5-10
>         _acceptable_ 
>         > names we should start the poll - no deadline, no hurry.
>         
>         I'm not against a longer time period to nominate names if the
>         consensus is
>         that we need more time, but I am against an open ended
>         selection process. I 
>         think one lesson we learned from the logo contest we held, was
>         that when you
>         have a long process eventually people start to lose interest,
>         become
>         impatient, or both. We saw people lose interest during the
>         logo contest, and 
>         I think the recent name poll was rushed because people became
>         impatient. We
>         need to have pre-determined selection process and time frame
>         to avoid these
>         issues.
>         
>         Another thing that should be considered is when our next
>         release will be 
>         ready. I've heard bits and pieces on this, but I don't have a
>         good answer. We
>         need to be sure that we have a name selected before then so we
>         don't hold up
>         the release. Maybe some of the other devs can enlighten me on
>         the release 
>         timeframe.
>         
>         Jeff
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