[Compcomm] My ideas (for the record)
RYX
ryx at ryxperience.com
Fri Jun 15 06:02:42 EDT 2007
Am Donnerstag, den 14.06.2007, 19:28 -0400 schrieb Robert Carr:
> On 6/14/07, Mike Dransfield <mike at blueroot.co.uk> wrote:
> > Robert Carr wrote:
> > > There is when an extras package implements nearly 100% of the actual
> > > user visible functionality, and another group could create an entirely
> > > seperate extras package with separate functionality.
> > >
> >
> > Are you seriously trying to say that if you disable the following
> > plugins you will have somewhere near 50% of your original
> > functionality left?
> >
> > By most people's standards, the computer would be non functional
> > without these.
> >
> > png, svg, regex, place, decoration, move, resize, wobbly, cube,
> > rotate, water, blur, scale, switcher
> >
> As we've discussed many times these are moving to part of what you
> call the 'extras' project as opposed to Compiz-fdo and my comment was
> based on that assumption.
As I've expressed about a hundred times - the so called "extras project"
was a DRAFT describing the future plans of the compiz-community. Some
people entirely misinterpreted that draft as the "de-facto roadmap" for
the next ten weeks (maybe intentionally?) and happily shouted that out
to the world. The (obviously stupid) idea of moving core-development to
"compiz-fdo" was entirely yours. The "core-development" is done on the
ML and "coredev-newbies" can also find help on the forums. We spend
months to build up a well-accepted forum-structure and -organization
which is aimed towards helping newbies as well as more advanced users.
No matter if he only wants to "use" or he also wants to "develop" ...
Everything we wanted was to get all the "lost" people back to the
compiz-community. And why should "the community formerly known as
compiz-quinnstorm" not become united with the compiz-commmunity? At
compiz.org, which is ready and waiting for everyone. (Oh, sure - we
don't have that incredible phpbb3 ... well, I can assure you we'll use
it once it is working and I don't lose my posts because of bugs every
two hours).
So, we virtually had/have everything we need - but instead of supporting
our plans (as you originally said), you guys brought in everything you
thought is best and tried to duplicate effort wherever possible. With
the result that we now have two versions of almost everything - even two
forums.
I understand and fully support Mike's position and in the end I see it
exactly the way he does.
Instead of continuously misinforming people about new ideas and plans,
we should finally get back to our starting point: We wanted to have ONE
COMMUNITY for people interested in compiz and its plugins and
configuration. And we want our beloved WM to work on many system
configs. Nobody wanted another split or even more separation. Write that
behind your ears!! (german saying for "keep that in mind" :D ...).
Rico
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