[Compcomm] My ideas (for the record)

[Mike Dransfield]

Jeffrey Laramie wrote:
> On Thursday 14 June 2007 19:43, Mike Dransfield wrote:
>   
>> Robert Carr wrote:
>>     
>>> On 6/14/07, Mike Dransfield <mike at blueroot.co.uk> wrote:
>>>       
>>>> Robert Carr wrote:
>>>>         
>>>>> There is when an extras package implements nearly 100% of the actual
>>>>> user visible functionality, and another group could create an entirely
>>>>> seperate extras package with separate functionality.
>>>>>           
>>>> Are you seriously trying to say that if you disable the following
>>>> plugins you will have somewhere near 50% of your original
>>>> functionality left?
>>>>
>>>> By most people's standards, the computer would be non functional
>>>> without these.
>>>>
>>>> png, svg, regex, place, decoration, move, resize, wobbly, cube,
>>>> rotate, water, blur, scale, switcher
>>>>         
>>> As we've discussed many times these are moving to part of what you
>>> call the 'extras' project as opposed to Compiz-fdo and my comment was
>>> based on that assumption.
>>>       
>> I have never called anything the 'extras project' - it does not
>> make sense.
>>
>> There was a package called compiz-extra (which I did not make)
>> and there was discussion about how we could package plugins
>> which complimented compiz.  Some people mistook the name
>> of a simple tarball with a project, then went off and started
>> creating these communities without actually thinking them
>> through.
>>     
>
> Mike, there is nothing factual in this statement whatsoever. The decision to 
> create 2 divisions was discussed at length on CompizAdmin, strongly supported 
> by David, and agreed to. I drafted a description that reflected the intent of 
> the committee. Please stop trying to revise history to support your POV.
>   

The discussions were so that we could draw some lines
over the Compiz code so that certain people would know
where their boundaries are.

Remember at the time, the beryl fork was still going and
he was not happy that people were forking his software
without good reason.

David has always made it clear that he wants total control of
the core but anyone is free to work on any plugin they like.
We wanted to express this by separating some of his plugins
out into a different package so people would feel that he was
more open.

The core/extras split was just so he could take control of the
core.  The core division is just him, with a few part-timers
helping out.  There is no need for a core 'community' so anything
we make is automatically part of the extras division.

His objectives as compiz-core can now be slightly different
from ours as compiz extra, so we both are able to have more
freedom.

I thought you realised 'compiz core division' was basically him
and 'compiz extra division' is all of us.  He doesn't want a forum
or blog so theres not much point having a compiz-core forum.


> Jeff
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