[Compcomm] A funny situation

[Mike Dransfield]

RYX wrote:
> I would have really prefered if more people would answer on my more
> serious mail. :)
>   
I think that whilst it was meant in a light-hearted
way it really hits hard at the main point.

Its just way too confusing for end users which is
why I want to locate everything around one hub
and one brand (and I assume everyone elses reason
for doing the same).
> Am Montag, den 18.06.2007, 14:54 +0200 schrieb Franz Rogar:
>   
>> 2007/6/18, RYX <ryx at ryxperience.com>:
>>     
>>> Imagine this "funny" situation:
>>>
>>>       
>> Imagine this other "funny" situation:
>>
>>     
>>> A friend visits me and says: "Oh you have a nice desktop there and such
>>> cool transparent windows. What is it that creates such nice compositing
>>> effects and transparency?".
>>>       
>> I answer him: "This is my compositing window manager. It's an open
>> source project ;) You can take a look at opencompositing.org. What
>> you're seeing is Compiz (the core) and some plugins made by the
>> community called CompComm. Also, in the web page, you can find other
>> interesting open source compositing applications as kiba-doc and
>> screenlets."
>>     
> I bet your friend didn't understand anything of what you say, except all
> your friends are computer-freaks (which does not really represent the
> average end-user). Even the term "window manager" will confuse most
> non-Linux users - especially in non-english speaking countries.
>
>   
>> Note: I'm sure that a my friend doesn't know anything about
>> compositing, if not he/she will know about Compiz, L3G, Metisse etc...
>>     
> He will also not know what open-source is - because he is not interested
> in all that. He only sees a nice "Windows" that looks better than his
> one. I assume this is one of my friends who don't know much about
> computers.
>
>   
>>> He says: "Now that's cool - where can I get
>>> it? At compiz.org?".
>>>       
>> As I stayed clearly that they're "open source compositing"
>> applications, he/she will look for them at "opencompositing.org". So,
>> he/she will not ask that.
>>     
> You missed the point of my other mail. Everyone is free to create his
> own community - but he shouldn't abuse this re-unification for it. The
> whole oc.org-thing extremely breaks its original purpose.
>
>   
>>> He seems surprised and asks: "So I can go to opencompositing.org and
>>> just download that compiz window manager?".
>>>       
>> I answer hime: "Yes, but you'll get only the basic interface. As I
>> stayed previosly, you can download the community plugins called
>> CompComm".
>>     
> Now there goes the user-friendliness and I have to help and install him
> all the extra-stuff from all other locations because he doesn't want to
> read a book only to be able to use his computer in a more "enhancing"
> way. :D
>
>   
>>> He is even more surprised and asks: "But why can't I just go to
>>> compiz.org and download that compiz window manager and all those nice
>>> effects and plugins and addons?".
>>>
>>>       
>> He/she will not ask this, unless he/she is idiot 'cause I've stated
>> that "it's opensource".
>>     
> Badly spoken most end-users are idiots if you want to see it like that
> (I don't mean this offensive against anyone). That's why we do what we
> do, right? Simplifying things and helping users.
>
>   
>> I add: "You can take support on opencompositing.org for both compiz
>> and compcomm. Info about those proyects can be found also in
>> opencompositing.org and, for more concrete info about Compiz, you can
>> see "compiz.info" (not compiz.org)
>>     
> You don't find that confusing?
>
>   
>>> He says: "Ahh I see ...", while walks away confused and irritated.
>>> Straightly back to his windows PC.
>>>
>>>       
>> Are you thinking my friend is subnormal?
>>     
> Most windows users appear subnormal to me from time to time - but that's
> the way it is. Bad information leads to bad behavior. ;)
>
>   
>>> This is what you all aim at.
>>>
>>>       
>> Don't get wrong: you must give accurate and structured info to friends
>> if you want they stay with you.
>>     
> I don't think it is accurate to confuse them and in the end do it myself
> and they don't even know what the name of that "bling" on their desktop
> is. They'll think it is "just Ubuntu - something like Windows" ...
>
>   
>>> Rico
>>>
>>>       
>> I think you still see the bottle middle-empty of water instead of middle-full.
>>     
> I see things realistic. Realism often seems pessimistic beause in
> reality there are obstacles and disadvantages which shouldn't get
> ignored. I am an optimist, otherwise I would have given up long ago.
>
> :)
>   
>
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