[Compcomm] Forum Decision

[Sam Spilsbury]

On 5/11/07, RYX <ryx at ryxperience.com> wrote:
> What happens to compiz.org? Is it now deprecated? I don't understand how
> exactly the new forum is meant to integrate with the compiz-website - if
> it is at all. If it isn't - what do compiz users do if they want
> support? Go to the opencompositing-forums? That is a highly
> unprofessional presentation of compiz and its greatness.
>

A new site design will be out soon I hope

> And what do we do if the community has finally chosen a new name? Move
> everything again? Rename all forum topics? Rename the entire folders,
> files and comments in git? Rename all packages? The name "compcomm"
> appears so often that one could think it is meant to last forever.
>

CompComm is a makeshift name. And no its not a big deal, just like the
Beryl fork - we didn't rename everything

> On the one hand people talk about no duplicated effort and on the other
> hand they do things over and over again - that is not the type of
> organization this project needs. The git-repo is a total mess, too.
>

This project has only just taken off. Allow it more time to figure
itself out. Things dont happen immediately

> I know that you see me as the unconstructive troublemaker anyway so I
> don't expect you to understand my point. I just don't agree that much
> with your future vision of the project. Compiz as a project has (had?) a
> somehow professional attitude while "compcomm" doesn't appear much like
> that in many areas (not in all).

Again, more time and you will see great things. Beryl was very
organised at one point too ;-)

>
> I don't want to complain all the time but I can't understand why we
> should simply accept getting a "compizified" beryl-project as new
> replacement for compiz. The current state of what some people refer to
> as "compcomm" is by no means acceptable as a full replacement.
>

I don't think that was the point of the merge. The point was to merge
compiz and Beryl into something brand new

>
> Rico
>
>

If you want more info on whats happening, read my "This week in
CompComm post on the opencompositing.org forums in the "Our Site"
section

> Am Donnerstag, den 10.05.2007, 17:51 -0400 schrieb Jeffrey Laramie:
> > I can hear you all groaning at the thought of starting this discussion up
> > again. Trust me, I'm not looking forward to it either, but it's an issue that
> > needs to be resolved and time is not on our side here.
> >
> > At this point I don't see any benefit in rehashing any of the previous
> > discussion. It's been almost 3 weeks since we stopped discussing the forum
> > and sadly a lot has changed.
> >
> > Since the discussion ended, the activity on the Compiz forum has dropped by
> > more than one half. At this point there are only 2-3 active threads and the
> > rest of the posts are from newbies looking for support. The Beryl forum has
> > been locked up completely. The "new" forum has had lots of people join, but
> > few of them are from Compiz. I don't have exact stats on usage, but
> > subjectively I'd say it's less than half the volume of the old Beryl forum.
> >
> > We are fortunate that the code merging is going well, because our actions, and
> > to a certain extent our inaction, have caused a great deal of harm to our
> > user and enthusiast communities which use these forums. I'm not about to
> > start pointing fingers and laying blame because there is plenty of blame to
> > go around and many of us share in it.
> >
> > The original agreement to reunite envisioned merging the forums from each
> > community.  While we have demonstrated that this is technically possible, I
> > no longer see any point in it. Except for a couple threads on the compiz
> > forum, there are no active threads to merge and it simply isn't worth the
> > effort any longer.
> >
> > While I'm strongly against the way the new forum was created, I think it's
> > design incorporates the best features of both the Compiz and Beryl forums and
> > it uses phpbb3 which many people seem to prefer. I worked on it a bit last
> > night and added a few categories so that it is better able to support the
> > compiz-core package. I think all of us are willing to make further
> > adjustments if there are areas where this layout needs improvement. For those
> > of you who haven't seen it, you can find it here:
> > http://www.opencompositing.org
> >
> > I'd like to propose that we select this forum as the "official" Composite
> > Community forum.
> >
> > Jeff
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