[Compcomm] Forum Decision

[Mike Dransfield]

Jeffrey Laramie wrote:
> On Sunday 13 May 2007 10:53, Mike Dransfield wrote:
>   
>> Stephen Moore wrote:
>>     
>>> On 5/13/07, *Vasek Potocek* <vasek.potocek at post.cz
>>> <mailto:vasek.potocek at post.cz>> wrote:
>>>
>>>     Jeffrey Laramie napsal:
>>>     > On Saturday 12 May 2007 18:52, Mike Dransfield wrote:
>>>     >> Jeffrey Laramie wrote:
>>>     >>> On Thursday 10 May 2007 19:35, Franz Rogar wrote:
>>>     >>>> 2007/5/11, RYX < ryx at ryxperience.com
>>>
>>>     <mailto:ryx at ryxperience.com>>:
>>>     >>>>> What happens to compiz.org <http://compiz.org>? Is it now
>>>
>>>     deprecated? I don't understand
>>>
>>>     >>>>> how exactly the new forum is meant to integrate with the
>>>
>>>     compiz-website
>>>
>>>     >>>>> - if it is at all. If it isn't - what do compiz users do if
>>>
>>>     they want
>>>
>>>     >>>>> support? Go to the opencompositing-forums? That is a highly
>>>     >>>>> unprofessional presentation of compiz and its greatness.
>>>     >>>>
>>>     >>>> I'm 100% with you. Just why not do a redirection from
>>>
>>>     forum.compiz.org <http://forum.compiz.org>
>>>
>>>     >>>> to opencompositing.org <http://opencompositing.org>? Just an
>>>
>>>     idea (not very elegant but... a
>>>
>>>     >>>> solution).
>>>     >>>
>>>     >>> This should work fine.
>>>     >>
>>>     >> Would this involve deleting all the posts on the current forum?
>>>     >
>>>     > No, I think the current compiz forum should be "frozen" as a RO
>>>
>>>     subforum of
>>>
>>>     > the opencompositing.org <http://opencompositing.org> forum. As I
>>>
>>>     said earlier, it's possible to import the
>>>
>>>     > current forums using vB, but I think a RO link as a subforum
>>>
>>>     gives us nearly
>>>
>>>     > the same benefit without the effort of:  import-compiz +
>>>
>>>     import-beryl +
>>>
>>>     > convert vB to phpbb2. If Rico and Arturo port the current compiz
>>>
>>>     forum theme
>>>
>>>     > to the combined forum, we can change the link on compiz.org
>>>
>>>     <http://compiz.org> and the combined
>>>
>>>     > forum will become part of the compiz site.
>>>     >
>>>     > Jeff
>>>
>>>     What about topics not influenced by the change, e.g., Screenlets
>>>     and maybe "Ideas / Feature requests"? There are some
>>>     open discussions there.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> what if the really active ones are ported to the new forums and then
>>> give a month or so when people can nominate particular threads to be
>>> ported to new forums, after which no new threads can be ported....
>>>
>>> seeing as it's only a small forum (especially when compared to the old
>>> beryl forums, that shouldn't be too hard??)
>>>       
>> Here is a question for you.
>>
>> We only have a finite number of web developers.
>>     
>
> While this may be true in a universal sense, it's not true in a practical 
> sense. We have a very large community now and there are lots of community 
> members that could be contributing but aren't, or aren't contributing as much 
> as they could be. If we provide a pleasant, supportive environment, we will 
> attract new talent and encourage our existing members to create even more. We 
> don't have to do all the work ourselves. We just need to provide the tools 
> and direction so that those who wish to contribute are able to.
>   

Go ahead - use this virtually unlimited resource for the benefit of
compcomm, please do not delete the existing compiz site to prove
a point.

>   
>> Would you prefer that they spent the next 3 months working on..
>>
>> a) Creating yet another compiz site (forum, wiki, blog, migrating
>> threads etc etc)?
>>     
>
> Using a CMS I can create a site in 15 minutes. We already have a forum and 
> compiz never had blogs. The only thing we need to create is a wiki and with a 
> good CMS we don't even need to do that. As an experienced web developer, you 
> know that it doesn't take one developer 3 months to build a website, much 
> less an entire community with many developers. Making statements like that 
> only reduces your credibility. 
>   

It does take time to build a website, it includes design and good
content.

Everyone knows that you can set up a cms in 15 minutes, but it
takes experience to know that you have not finished when you
have the shell up, that is when the work starts.

Making statements that all of this can be done very quickly, without
much effort and in a way that makes everyone happy just reduces
YOUR credibility.

Remember how the code merge was supposed to only take one week?
How long ago was that estimate posted?  People seem to be living in
some sort of dream world.


> Jeff
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